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Defense questions witness about lying under oath in Lori Vallow Daybell trial

A former friend testified that Lori Vallow said threatening things to her. The defense didn't buy it.

BOISE, Idaho — Wednesday marks one month since the trial of Lori Vallow, or Lori Vallow Daybell, began with what would become nearly a week of jury selection at the Ada County Courthouse.

A former friend of Lori Vallow, Audrey Barattiero, took the stand Wednesday morning. Defense attorney Jim Archibald questioned her about lying under oath because some of her testimony never came up in any grand jury proceedings, he said.

Lori Vallow is charged with first-degree murder, conspiracy to commit murder, and grand theft in connection to the deaths of two of her children, JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan, and the death of her current husband's late wife, Tammy Daybell. If convicted, Lori Vallow could face up to life in prison.

For a fourth week, the prosecution continues to present witness testimony and other evidence.

Cameras are not allowed in the courtroom, but investigative and courts reporter Alexandra Duggan was there:

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Husband of Lori Vallow's niece takes the stand

3:22 p.m.: Court adjourns for the day. Ian Pawlowski will be back on the stand Thursday morning.

3:10 p.m.: When Lori Vallow discussed her beliefs with Ian Pawlowski, he said he was open to hearing them because he is religious, too.

"You have to maintain an open mind when new things come," he said. "At that time... I had just gone through a rough divorce and I was trying to rebuild myself."

It only took a few days for him to realize he was no longer open minded to the beliefs Lori Vallow was discussing -- the light and dark ranking system, meaning who was evil and who was good, was "alarming" he said.

"The point where it really turned for me was the morning after my marriage to Melani. Melani had dumped her fears on me," he said. "At that point I said I wasn't going to mess with it."

The prosecution asked if he felt like his children or his wife were safe. He said no.

A week after the marriage in November of 2019, Ian Pawlowski met with the police where they instructed him to record conversations he was a part of.

In none of these recordings did Lori Vallow or Chad Daybell confess to a crime, he said, but they told him to "cooperate as little as possible."

3:00 p.m.: The court determined Ian Pawlowski did not violate the exclusionary rule. He begins his testimony.

Ian Pawlowski met Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell around Thanksgiving of 2019.

He said the relationship his wife had with Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell was "very close and supportive" -- so close in fact, Ian Pawlowski went to the couple to ask them their permission to marry Melani Pawlowski.

Ian Pawlowski said Lori Vallow talked about her religious beliefs with him, discussing possession, casting and "locking Satan away."

Ian Pawlowski knew Lori Vallow had children, but he never saw them -- only a couple backpacks that looked like they belonged to kids.

2:50 p.m.: Ian Pawlowski, the husband of Lori Vallow's niece, Melani Pawlowski, is next on the stand.

However, the prosecution and defense said that Melani Pawlowski violated the exclusionary rule that required witnesses to refrain from listening or reading about testimony. The defense argues that because the two are married, Ian Pawlowski should be disqualified, too.

The court is allowed to inquire about the testimony that people allegedly heard or read.

Ian Pawlowski said during this inquiry there was a point that Melani Pawlowski's ex-husband Brandon Boudreaux testified, and because there is ongoing litigation between them, she saw a headline that concerned her. Ian Pawlowski said he has not been reading or listening to anything regarding testimony, just has been scrolling through social media and seen a headline accidentally.

Jim Archibald, Lori Vallow's defense attorney, asked if Ian Pawlowski heard a comment from his wife where she said, "they put the nail in Lori's coffin."

Ian Pawlowski said he wasn't present for that comment.

Attempted shooting of Tammy Daybell

1:50 p.m.: Google searches show Alex Cox's device performed several pornographic searches along with searches for AR-15 information.

1:30 p.m.: John Thomas, the defense, now asks Kaaiakamanu if he followed up on a report of a stolen dog in Tammy Daybell's neighborhood. Kaaiakamanu said he didn't follow up, he didn't think it was relevant.

Thomas asks if this suspect who attempted to shoot Tammy Daybell left any casings or bullet holes. Kaaiakamanu said yes, but they didn't find any.

1:05 p.m.: The court brings in the AR-15 firearm with a vortex scope that police found in Alex Cox's apartment, which matched the description of what tried to shoot at Tammy Daybell. The gun was rendered inoperable for safety reasons and the jury was not allowed to touch it. 

Det. Kaaiakamanu points out parts of the gun to the jury as a bailiff holds it.

11:51 a.m.: Kaaiakamanu requested a geofencing warrant from Google to see what devices were in the area of Chad Daybell's home from Oct.18-19 of 2019, when Tammy Daybell died.

The detective never saw Chad Daybell's devices within the geofence, even though he claimed he was in bed asleep when his wife died. The data also picked up a device associated with Alex Cox near the Salem LDS Church between 10-11 p.m. on Oct 18, 2019.

11:35 a.m.: The jury is viewing photos of guns that were collected as evidence from the apartments of Alex Cox and Lori Vallow.

One firearm that was seized could be mistaken as a paintball gun, Kaaiakamanu said, which is what Tammy Daybell said was used in her attempted shooting in October of 2019.

John Thomas, Lori Vallow's defense attorney, objected to the photos of the firearms being shown -- he said he wants the jury to physically see the guns in the courtroom. Judge Steven Boyce gives him the opportunity to bring in the guns during the defense's portion of the trial.

11:15 a.m.: Kaaiakamanu said he was reviewing search history and data from an email account associated with Alex Cox. Cox is Lori Vallow's brother.

The detective said he saw searches for "3875 E. Phelps St, Gilbert, AZ" which is where Brandon Boudreaux was living at the time. Boudreaux, the ex-husband of Lori Vallow's niece, was shot at near his home in October of 2019. 

On Oct. 10, 2019, Cox's account searched "6.5 grendel drop from 100 yards to 300 yards." This told Kaaiakamanu that Cox was figuring out where to stand when trying to shoot at Tammy Daybell.

The same account searched for "How to prep your AR for cold," "How to help your AR load in the cold," and others. Kaaiakamanu said at this time, it was around 26 degrees outside.

11:00 a.m.: The state calls Det. Vince Kaaiakamanu, who works for the Fremont County Sheriff's Office.

He became involved in the investigation into Tammy Daybell's death in March of 2020.

An email that was sent from Tammy Daybell to her son just days before her death in October 2019 is shown to the jury.

She wrote she was coming home from clogging as she backed into the driveway. She was getting items from her car and saw a man dressed in black pointing a rifle at her.

"It was a big shock," the email said. "I noticed the rifle was a paintball gun... The guy started pulling the trigger and I could just hear the clicking."

"I just kept asking him what he was doing. At that point I was more annoyed than scared," the email read. 

The email from Tammy Daybell said she ran inside to get her husband and son and called the police, which is what has been testified to previously. The email said police told her the suspect could've been a "bipolar teenager" from down the street.

Former friend testifies, defense asks if she's lying under oath

10:08 a.m.: Archibald asks Barattiero why she didn't say any of these things in her previous testimony in front of a grand jury. He reminds her she's under oath.

"You want the jury to believe you didn't just make this last crap up?" Archibald asks her.

Barattiero said she didn't make it up.

"I was scared," she said. Barattiero said that she felt threatened by Vallow because she would come for her "in the dark of night."

10:00 a.m.: Barattiero said when she visited Lori Vallow at her home, she asked Vallow if there is anything weird going on.

"When she turned up the stairs, she started laughing. She said 'you're so naive... So trusting... You'll believe anything. You think the world is all unicorns and rainbows,'" Baratierro said.

"She threatened to kill me. She said she would cut me up. Something about that she wasn't in the mental place to do that but she would get herself in that place to be able to do it... She said something about bleach and trash bags. And she would bury me," Barattiero said as she sobbed on the stand.

She told the jury Vallow said something about watching a person take their last breath.

9:45 a.m.: Jim Archibald begins to cross-examine Barattiero.

She said during a casting, the words Lori Vallow and her friends were using were "aggressive."

"The method they used didn't seem like a prayer," Barattiero said. "They were not calling upon the Father."

Archibald mostly asks about Chad Daybell's beliefs, like how he told Barattiero she was married to Jesus Christ and how he said he had been "great" in his past lives.

Archibald asks why Barattiero continued hanging out with Lori Vallow and Melanie Gibb if she was so uncomfortable in Hawaii while the two were talking about zombies and castings.

"I have a big heart," Barattiero said. "I want to help those around me."

9:20 a.m.: Vallow brought up the idea to Barattiero to "work on Tammy," meaning cast out a demon inside her that was "in a cage or jail."

Barattiero said she did not want to participate, but Vallow kept pressuring her.

After these "castings" Barattiero said Vallow was asking why the body was still alive. 

"They didn't want the person to live," she said. Barattiero said the women "casting" the demons out were talking about "knives and fire."

In the end of October of 2019, Barattiero went with Vallow on a trip to Hawaii. The two stayed in a hotel with Melanie Gibb.

"I was very uncomfortable," Barattiero said. "When I got there, shortly after being there, Lori told me Tammy had passed away and I didn't know... I asked her how she passed away. She said in her sleep."

Barattiero is crying on the stand. During the time in Hawaii, she said Vallow seemed agitated.

"There were times she would leave and go talk (to Chad Daybell), and be gone for a long time... The times when she was happy, she was thinking about him or had talked to him," Barattiero said. She later flew back to Idaho with Melanie Gibb.

"I wanted to pay my respects to Garth (Daybell). I knew he was close with his mom," Barattiero said. While in Idaho, Barattiero stayed at Vallow's home. She observed Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow kissing and hugging a lot, she said.

9:05 a.m.: Barattiero said there were a few times she asked Vallow how her daughter, Tylee Ryan, was doing.

Vallow told her she was in college. 

"Towards the end of the friendship, when I asked her how she was doing at BYU, she said 'she doesn't talk to me much these days,'" Barattiero said.

Barattiero confirms what other witnesses have said -- that Chad Daybell told her and others his wife would die before age 50, and that he would get remarried to Vallow. 

8:55 a.m.: Audrey Barattiero is called to the stand. She is a former friend of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell. Her name is listed in the notice of alibi as someone Vallow was with when Tammy Daybell died.

Barattiero said Chad Daybell asked her to be Vallow's friend in February of 2019 because "he couldn't talk to her all the time."

Barattiero said the two became friends at attended more conferences together. At one point when the two were speaking over the phone, Vallow "all of a sudden out of the blue" brought up theories of people being possessed like zombies.

"It came out of nowhere," she said. "It made me feel uncomfortable."

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