PORTLAND, Ore. -- Ammon Bundy finished his second day of testimony in his federal conspiracy trial, saying he led the occupation of a national wildlife refuge because people needed to take a stand against federal government overreach.

Bundy said he told occupiers to bring guns, because they would otherwise be immediately arrested. If that happened, their message would not get out.

The occupation leader from Emmett, Idaho, said he did not tell anyone about his plan to take over the refuge until the day it happened.

He testified the occupiers wanted to take control of the refuge through the concept of adverse possession and let locals decide how to use the land.

Bundy said the occupiers' message was getting out. He said a speech by Republican U.S. Rep. Greg Walden of Oregon early in the occupation covered much of what the group had been complaining about, and it encouraged him to continue.